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		<title>By: planetjbpm</title>
		<link>http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/other-products-using-jbpm/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>planetjbpm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m impressed on at least what I saw. I to like Richfaces (and Seam), but others have a different opinion.

Your remark about something HUGE (in caps!!!) makes me curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m impressed on at least what I saw. I to like Richfaces (and Seam), but others have a different opinion.</p>
<p>Your remark about something HUGE (in caps!!!) makes me curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Piccolo</title>
		<link>http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/other-products-using-jbpm/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Piccolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there folks.  Since you&#039;re hunting for products out there that are using jBPM, I figured I&#039;d throw another one out there for you.  jBPM is the engine in our product, EliteBPM.  You can have a glance here http://www.elitevaluesolutions.com/products.

The product builds up the already extremely functional jBPM engine, adding a cutting edge interface for task and process management, business process monitoring, advanced administration and security, full service library and API to name a few features...

The interface is built from the ground up with Web 2.0 technologies - for you techies - AJAX via richfaces, another killer RedHat/Jboss technology.  There are several web forms that can be installed in addition to the task form incl. administrative forms, process view forms and process reports.  The forms can be AJAX enabled and use JSF managed beans loaded dynamically from the DB complete with dependency injection.  Build an EJB3 module, your process with dynamic beans and forms and deploy HOT - fully versioned - right from the eclipse JPDL plugin.  

We have something HUGE in the pipeline for BPM.  I&#039;ll keep you guys posted once we have our basis covered...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there folks.  Since you&#8217;re hunting for products out there that are using jBPM, I figured I&#8217;d throw another one out there for you.  jBPM is the engine in our product, EliteBPM.  You can have a glance here <a href="http://www.elitevaluesolutions.com/products" rel="nofollow">http://www.elitevaluesolutions.com/products</a>.</p>
<p>The product builds up the already extremely functional jBPM engine, adding a cutting edge interface for task and process management, business process monitoring, advanced administration and security, full service library and API to name a few features&#8230;</p>
<p>The interface is built from the ground up with Web 2.0 technologies &#8211; for you techies &#8211; AJAX via richfaces, another killer RedHat/Jboss technology.  There are several web forms that can be installed in addition to the task form incl. administrative forms, process view forms and process reports.  The forms can be AJAX enabled and use JSF managed beans loaded dynamically from the DB complete with dependency injection.  Build an EJB3 module, your process with dynamic beans and forms and deploy HOT &#8211; fully versioned &#8211; right from the eclipse JPDL plugin.  </p>
<p>We have something HUGE in the pipeline for BPM.  I&#8217;ll keep you guys posted once we have our basis covered&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pietro Polsinelli</title>
		<link>http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/other-products-using-jbpm/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Pietro Polsinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teamwork 4 is using also JBPM: see the webcast where we show a preview: http://twproject.blogspot.com/2008/12/teamwork-webcast-1-business-processes.html .

Already Teamwork 2 and 3 have been running on Hibernate, and JBPM supplied a way to develop a much needed bridge between project management and business processes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teamwork 4 is using also JBPM: see the webcast where we show a preview: <a href="http://twproject.blogspot.com/2008/12/teamwork-webcast-1-business-processes.html" rel="nofollow">http://twproject.blogspot.com/2008/12/teamwork-webcast-1-business-processes.html</a> .</p>
<p>Already Teamwork 2 and 3 have been running on Hibernate, and JBPM supplied a way to develop a much needed bridge between project management and business processes.</p>
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		<title>By: JBoss jBPM casos de exito! &#171; .Salaboy</title>
		<link>http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/other-products-using-jbpm/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>JBoss jBPM casos de exito! &#171; .Salaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alexey Kakunin</title>
		<link>http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/other-products-using-jbpm/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexey Kakunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From https://saw.dev.java.net/docs/UnderstandingSAW.html
&quot;This generic workflow api will ship with a default implementation for Sun Java Composite Application Platform Suite aka JCAPS (Sun JCAPS). We can have similar SAW implenentations for other business processes like jBPM(SAW-jBPM), OpenESB (SAW-OpenESB)&quot;

So, currently they supports Sun JCAPS, and jBPM as well as OpenESB is only &quot;can have&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="https://saw.dev.java.net/docs/UnderstandingSAW.html" rel="nofollow">https://saw.dev.java.net/docs/UnderstandingSAW.html</a><br />
&#8220;This generic workflow api will ship with a default implementation for Sun Java Composite Application Platform Suite aka JCAPS (Sun JCAPS). We can have similar SAW implenentations for other business processes like jBPM(SAW-jBPM), OpenESB (SAW-OpenESB)&#8221;</p>
<p>So, currently they supports Sun JCAPS, and jBPM as well as OpenESB is only &#8220;can have&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kukeltje</title>
		<link>http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/other-products-using-jbpm/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>kukeltje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I&#039;ve read, the first implementation under SAW in WebSynergy is jBPM, but that could be my interpretation. You are right that you might miss framework specific features, but maybe you miss not that much. The process definition language (e.g. jPDL) and the engine provide most functionality. The basic api is there for signalling the process, starting one, ending tasks and that might just be sufficient for 90% of the usecases. In that case, it provides SUN a nice migrationpath to &#039;plug&#039; their own BPMS (pun intended) 

Regarding your &#039;plug&#039; ;-) you are aware of http://www.jboss.org/community/docs/DOC-11170?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve read, the first implementation under SAW in WebSynergy is jBPM, but that could be my interpretation. You are right that you might miss framework specific features, but maybe you miss not that much. The process definition language (e.g. jPDL) and the engine provide most functionality. The basic api is there for signalling the process, starting one, ending tasks and that might just be sufficient for 90% of the usecases. In that case, it provides SUN a nice migrationpath to &#8216;plug&#8217; their own BPMS (pun intended) </p>
<p>Regarding your &#8216;plug&#8217; <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  you are aware of <a href="http://www.jboss.org/community/docs/DOC-11170?" rel="nofollow">http://www.jboss.org/community/docs/DOC-11170?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alexey Kakunin</title>
		<link>http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/other-products-using-jbpm/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexey Kakunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I investigated WebSynergy and found there Workflow Portlet - initially I expeted it is build on top of jBPM (since actually - WebSynergy is just rebrended LifeRay and LifeRay already had jBPM Portlets). But then it was filed to upload my jBPM par - I started to look deeper and found information about SAW.

As I understand - they are planning to support jBPM - but it is not really implemented. And I&#039;m personally not sure then it will be implemented.

Actually they just plan from architecture design it will be possible to place any workflow framework under SAW... But - personally to me - I&#039;m not sure it make really big sense to implement such unification API - using it users will lost many of framework-specific features, provided by each library (like jBPM).

What is good - this means Sun looks into jBPM as into serious player on workflow market - if they intially include jBPM integration into plans.

About interesting projects - probably our http://www.emforge.org will looks interesting for somebody - we are using jBPM for about 2,5 years there and very happy with it (initially EmForge was designed as jBPM + JspWiki + some other goodies)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I investigated WebSynergy and found there Workflow Portlet &#8211; initially I expeted it is build on top of jBPM (since actually &#8211; WebSynergy is just rebrended LifeRay and LifeRay already had jBPM Portlets). But then it was filed to upload my jBPM par &#8211; I started to look deeper and found information about SAW.</p>
<p>As I understand &#8211; they are planning to support jBPM &#8211; but it is not really implemented. And I&#8217;m personally not sure then it will be implemented.</p>
<p>Actually they just plan from architecture design it will be possible to place any workflow framework under SAW&#8230; But &#8211; personally to me &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure it make really big sense to implement such unification API &#8211; using it users will lost many of framework-specific features, provided by each library (like jBPM).</p>
<p>What is good &#8211; this means Sun looks into jBPM as into serious player on workflow market &#8211; if they intially include jBPM integration into plans.</p>
<p>About interesting projects &#8211; probably our <a href="http://www.emforge.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.emforge.org</a> will looks interesting for somebody &#8211; we are using jBPM for about 2,5 years there and very happy with it (initially EmForge was designed as jBPM + JspWiki + some other goodies)</p>
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		<title>By: Joram Barrez</title>
		<link>http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/other-products-using-jbpm/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Joram Barrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This came in my Google alert today:

http://twproject.blogspot.com/2008/10/teamwork-development-version-now.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This came in my Google alert today:</p>
<p><a href="http://twproject.blogspot.com/2008/10/teamwork-development-version-now.html" rel="nofollow">http://twproject.blogspot.com/2008/10/teamwork-development-version-now.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Terrill</title>
		<link>http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/other-products-using-jbpm/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Terrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right. jBPM is a great embedded workflow product, and I think there are a lot of companies and vendors out there using it.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bpsinc.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;We&lt;/a&gt; certainly do! It powers our &lt;a href=&quot;http://bpsinc.com/products/bps_suite.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Enterprise Risk Management products&lt;/a&gt;. I can&#039;t imagine anyone writing their own workflow engine when such great libraries such as jBPM are available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right. jBPM is a great embedded workflow product, and I think there are a lot of companies and vendors out there using it.<a href="http://www.bpsinc.com" rel="nofollow">We</a> certainly do! It powers our <a href="http://bpsinc.com/products/bps_suite.php" rel="nofollow">Enterprise Risk Management products</a>. I can&#8217;t imagine anyone writing their own workflow engine when such great libraries such as jBPM are available.</p>
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